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Old 18-06-2009, 12:05 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Disabled Detailing

Since first being posted nearly 8 years ago, this thread has developed into a
"detailing made easy" resource, so you don't _have_ to be disabled to get
some benefit from it. As someone who has limited motor function in his hands,
looking for products that suit a partly physically disabled person who pursues
this as a hobby has been quite a high priority.

Introduction

I started this thread, not realising that it would become a sticky, to not
only share my so far limited experience with modern products, but to try
and bring together ideas from others who suffer with similar problems.
Hopefully, it'll be as much about the techniques or methods as it'll be about
the potions.

On a personal note, it's not all bad news. One small compensation for me, for
example, is that I have heightened senses for judging drag on a wiping cloth.

Despite my limitations, I'm aiming to show that we can probably give you
"butcher's dog" guys a run for your money This is my car, less than a
fortnight after taking delivery...


Of course, I was encouraged to start detailing it...

Detailing... hmmmm.
On my previous car I used Greased Lightning's Showroom Shine - starting the
process off with a washed car. The car was metallic British Racing Green (on
a Renault!) and I was nothing short of amazed at how well it brought it up.
After 2 applications the car stayed remarkably weather-proof. By the time I
traded it in, the finish was extremely good, especially for 7 year old paint
resident in a sea-side town.

I've read the various threads on this topic and all I'll say at this point is to
follow the directions, especially the bit giving time for the product to do its
work. The "wash" part contains surfactants that will lift the dirt into suspension,
so the spreading needs to be by good quality micro-fibre cloth, slightly damped
to start with. However, 6 and 7 year old paint is quite different to brand new,
and there's lovely leather to look after too - hence my arrival here.

As a disabled guy I especially liked not having to lug heavy buckets of suds
about the place along with almost inevitable spills. I'm not too steady on my
feet, so this is a major factor for me.

2 Weeks Later

Having had a couple of long trips away, the car had received several cleans
with Showroom Shine. However, it was also time to get serious. This shows
the car with a Collinite coating. The wheels may look clean, but I wasn't that
impressed in the flesh as it were. They seemed to lack any sparkle which
won't show in the photos.





The finish is nice and shiny, but my personal preference is for a "warmer" depth.
IMO, the colour of this car doesn't suit the Collinite. However that purchase
hasn't been wasted. It's fantastic on wood! My grand-father clock has probably
never looked so good in all its 300 year history!

One fantastic product is Opti Seal, wipe on, walk away. However, what it
did was highlight the "cooler" shine even more.

Update - 05 June 2009

I think I've finally settled on a wax that suits this car's colour. I bought some
FK1000P to do the wheels, and having read that it seems to give a "warmer"
shine on lighter cars, I decided to give it a try. Tested on one panel, could
see there was a satisfying difference, so I went the whole hog. Only one coat
so far, second coat later next week perhaps, weather permitting. Wheels have
had 2 coats and I like the results.

Three late evening pictures of current progress...







Update - 14 June 2009

Sunday 14th June saw me travelling up to the East Midlands meet at Lowdham.
T'was good to finally meet some like-minds, I don't feel quite so alone now

At the meet I was able to show a few guys how I apply the Greased Lightning's
Showroom Shine. Afterward, I applied a second coat of FK1000p to the boot lid,
left it the recommended 20 minutes in the hot sun, and Wow..!!

Back home today and I've begun on the rest of the car and some progress
pics are below...

Note that I had cleaned the wheels on the side shown to test the effects of
hotter brake dust on clean wheels. There wasn't any. The 2 coats of FK have
done their work. I've yet to clean them in these pics!


If you look closely, you'll see the quarter portion I brushed clean at the meet
to show Ed how quick and easy it was. Note that the rear valance has yet
to have its 2nd coat.


This shot shows how much warmer the shine is and IMO how much better the
FK suits the colour of this car.

Update - 17 June 2009

One other product that I've recently tested is ONR and you can read my review
of it where I tackled what is usually seen as a dreaded job..

Living in the East of England, with the weather predominantly driven from the
West, means that dew and light showers will always leave a film of dirt on the
car, including very fine sand. After 3 damp nights it'll form a crust baked hard
by the sun. This has always been the time to take the most care - talk about
swirls alert! So, instead of the Showroom Shine, I'm going to try using ONR for
this task. I'll probably spray it in quite a concentrated dilution and use an MF
cloth dampened with ONR to wipe off. Should be much cheaper as I'll only be
doing the horizontal surfaces as a QD. Will report further on this.

Summary of Progress So Far

Products used...

Greased Lightning's Showroom Shine, though some of the tasks I've previously
used this for will probably be displaced by ONR, see above.

ONR - still under test here, but so far, I'm very impressed with the work it does.

FK1000p - Easy to apply, and easy to wipe off. Beware over-application as
the surplus isn't so easy to buff off.

Opti Seal - fabulously easy to apply and fantastic results. However, I now have
a question. Is it a good idea to apply it over the FK1000p, or not?

ClearKote - another easy to use product for the black plastic and tyre walls.

Stoner Invisible Glass - fantastic performance from this product. I now clean
the screen with a water dampened MF and buff off. Bug debris and bird muck
present little resistance. Although the screen is very areo-dynamic, I'm amazed
how little work the wipers need to do at speeds over 40mph or so. The beads
just fly up and away.

I'm partly through applying the second coat of FK1000p and will probably post
completion pics later this week. Hopefully, from now until October, it'll just be
soft maintenance before thinking about winter protection.

19 June 2009

Here they are...

The white spots on the drivers door and glass are reflections from the
shiny leaves of a tree behind the car.







Update January 2017

If you've come to this post at the start, then I would recommend that you
carry on from Post #124 on this page. Even though that was written over
5 years ago, there's plenty of food for thought if the prospect of reading
through all the thirty-odd pages in this thread is daunting. Enjoy!

Regards,
Steve

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Hello Folks,

As someone who has limited motor function in his hands, looking for products
that suit a partly physically disabled person who pursues this as a hobby has
been quite a high priority. I'm starting this thread to not only share my so far
limited experience, but to try and bring together ideas from others who suffer
similar problems.

It's not all bad news. One small compensation is that I have heightened senses
for judging drag on a wiping cloth. Despite my limitations, I'm aiming to show
that we can probably give you "butcher's dog" guys a run for your money

To start off, I'm going to transfer some progress reports from another thread
that are probably far better suited to this thread. Please bear with me as I
assemble it. Watch this space...

Regards,
Steve
Looking forward to this
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Old 18-06-2009, 07:05 AM   #3
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great write up Steve

You could apply OS over your FK, but I'm not sure it really adds anything, as FK1000 is so durable that it doesnt really need anything else. As you have it, why not try it and see, as it certainly wont do any harm.

Are you going to add any useful tips or techniques you've picked up? Keep adding more info and I'm sure you'll have others along soon to join in.
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Good write up, small world, I was behind you in traffic the other day (only remembered as it the first coupe I've see up close & the p plate), I live in Carlton Colville
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That's a nice looking Renault! Very smooth clean lines. Never seen one before.
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Old 18-06-2009, 03:46 PM   #6
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great write up Steve
Thanks Damon, at least it's a start...
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You could apply OS over your FK, but I'm not sure it really adds anything, as
FK1000 is so durable that it doesnt really need anything else. As you have it,
why not try it and see, as it certainly wont do any harm.
Well, there is a reason for asking and it isn't to do with the shine at all. In
another thread someone claimed that he's used the Opti Seal on wheels and
the dirt just hoses off. What I'm hoping to find out is whether this product
will be the one to allow me to spray off the wheel dust with a portable garden
sprayer.

It's reassuring to know that applying Opti Seal over the FK1000p won't have
any adverse effect. All I'm hoping is that the hosing off mentioned isn't by use
of a pressure washer. I tried it on the FK coating, just with plain water as a
trial, but all I got was a greasy mess. So, it was back to the MF.
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Are you going to add any useful tips or techniques you've picked up?
Keep adding more info and I'm sure you'll have others along soon to join in.
I guess I will. I've started the thread solely by concentrating on products to
use. Let's see how this pans out. So far I'm pretty pleased at the viewing
count. At least it shows that there's an interest in the topic. Though it would
be good to hear from others too. I'm still very much in the learning stage.

ONR Trial Continues
It's a bit of a dull day today, but having left the car clean last night, I was
a bit dismayed to see what had landed and stuck to the car in just 24 hours.
As I finished last night, we had the remains of a shower pass overhead.

As I'm trialling ONR, I thought I'd have a go, just to see what happens. I'm
not normally nerdy over cleaning, though with this amount of dirt appearing
out of the sky every day, I would normally give it a wipe over with Showroom
Shine perhaps every 3 or 4 days, weather dependant.

Here's an example, the raised boot lid...


Now sprayed with a mist of fairly high-strength ONR


No two-stage process here, as with the Showroom Shine, just a quick wipe-off.
There is little or no drag on the cloth, which I also dampened with a spray of
ONR before applying.


...and here's what I took off the all the horizontal surfaces of the car in less
than 5 minutes. The cloth started out brand new and the clean side is resting
on the car...


Even on a dull day, the reflections are fantastic. The lines across the roof are
actually reflections of radiating telephone cables going across the road.


So, as anticipated, the ONR makes the Showroom Shine redundant for this type
of QD. Though I will probably still use it for heavier soiling.
Regards,
Steve

PS. The number plate wasn't chosen for poshness. Substitute the "S" for a "5"
and you have the car model. What I don't have, for relatively little money, is
a car with an 09 plate nagging its age at me, and others

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Steve - Opti-Seal certainly releases dirt easily and cleans up nicely, but FK1000 is also superb at that. I'd be interested to know if you find it helps with your process, as I know several experienced detailers who swear the FK cleans up easier than anything else....

Not sure if you're using a pressure washer or a pump sprayer, but I have found you need the pressure and volume of water from a pressure washer to clean up wheels. My Kranzle is 10L/min which is a huge volume of water to throw at the muck, and you're just never going to get close to that cleaning power from a hand pump sprayer.
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Really good write up Steve and very interesting too
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Steve - Opti-Seal certainly releases dirt easily and cleans up nicely, but FK1000 is also superb at that. I'd be interested to know if you find it helps with your process, as I know several experienced detailers who swear the FK cleans up easier than anything else...
Well, the garden sprayer at 3 bar pressure wouldn't touch the dust, but that
was with plain water, just to see what would happen. As an experiment, I
reckon it's dead. With the ease that the dust comes off with MF cloths, it's
not too big a deal, I just get my folding chair out and set to. "Sunbathing
again?" asks my neighbour

The FK is a revelation to me. How a hard wax turns to cream on hitting the
paint, then dries almost to the equivalent of a lacquer is a triumph of science!
...and I go back to the days of polishing a black 1950's Zephyr Zodiac with
some stuff called "One Step" - talk about growing new muscles
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Really good write up Steve and very interesting too
Thanks. Now, all we need are some more write-ups from others in a similar
position! We _might_ just make it the first "sticky" in this section of the
Forum - hint-hint

Regards,
Steve

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Nice one, what a great write up on your detailing.
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