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Meguiars ONE MAN. ONE EGGBEATER. ONE VISION With the help of his family, an eggbeater and a tin bath, Frank Meguiar, Jr. creates his first bottle of furniture polish in his garage. Each night enough polish would be made to fulfil orders for the following morning and pay for that day’s groceries. The operation’s grown more than a little since With car shows becoming increasingly popular, enthusiasts began to recognise that it was Meguiar’s polishes that were creating the brilliant high-gloss finishes on display. Retailers began to be inundated with requests to stock Meguiar’s Mirror Glaze products, which at the time were only available for professional useFollowing the constant demand from enthusiasts for a consumer range of products, tthe Meguiar’s brand of consumer automotive products, the Classic line, is officially introduced. Happily, over 40 years later that marketplace enthusiasm still remains as high as ever

 
 
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Old 16-09-2011, 05:15 PM   #1
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Using Meguiar's D/A Microfiber Correction System

We are really excited to present our new DA Microfiber Correction System, a new concept in defect removal on factory cured paint. What’s so new about it? This system, and it truly is a system, makes use of two very unique microfiber pads – one for cutting and one for finishing. And it’s a system because we have specifically tailored these pads to be used with two particular liquids – a correction compound and a finishing wax. Even the foam backing on these pads has been engineered to work as part of the system, providing the proper balance between cut and cushion in both steps. This innovative system removes defects like a rotary, yet offers the safety, ease of use and swirl free results of a Dual Action Polisher. If you know how to use a D/A, you essentially know how to use this system, but you will have to make some very important adjustments to your technique. Change your mindset a bit and you’ll find this DA Microfiber Correction System can be just as simple to use as foam pads and various liquids, but it will return very dramatic results in very little time.




The DA Microfiber Correction System is comprised of the following:

2 Liquid Components

DA Microfiber Correction Compound - D300
  • No swirls - guaranteed (keep in mind we're talking about the fact that this system will not leave buffer swirls like a rotary usually does during compounding)
  • Super-micro abrasive technology (SMAT) quickly removes moderate defects with a high gloss
  • No mess, no sling, low dusting for superior clean up
  • Rich concentrated formula delivers lower cost per car
  • 16 ounce - $19.86 (D30016)
  • 32 ounce - $34.50 (D30032)
  • 1 gallon - $88.00 (D30001)

DA Microfiber Finishing Wax - D301
  • One-pass fast, dust free wipe off
  • Rich blend of polymers, silicones & carnauba for high gloss protection
  • Specially formulated to optimize surface after applying DA Microfiber Correction Compound
  • Designed for use with DA Microfiber Finishing Disc
  • 16 ounce - $9.00 (D30116)
  • 32 ounce - $15.80 (D30132)
  • 1 gallon - $39.80 (D30101)



2 Disc Components
  • Cutting Disc - New microfiber disc technology cuts through moderate surface defects with no swirls - guaranteed
  • Cutting disc optimized for use with DA Correction Compound D300
  • Finishing Disc - New microfiber disc technology refines surface to a high gloss finish
  • Finishing disc optimized for use with DA Finishing Wax D301
  • Engineered foam interface for optimal cutting efficiency and controlled conformability
  • Machine washable
Sizes, pricing, part numbers:
  • DA Microfiber Cutting Disc
    • 3.37" diameter - $13.98 2-pack (DMC3)
    • 5.5" diameter - $21.98 2-pack (DMC5) or $118.69 12-pack (DMC5B)
    • 6.25" diameter - $23.98 2-pack (DMC6) or $129.49 12-pack (DMC6B)
  • DA Microfiber Finishing Disc
    • 3.37" diameter - $13.98 2-pack (DMF3)
    • 5.5" diameter - $21.98 2-pack (DMF5) or $118.69 12-pack (DMF5B)
    • 6.25" diameter - $23.98 2-pack (DMF6) or $129.49 12-pack (DMF6B)


Further, it is highly recommended that our backing plates be used, primarily due to the micro-hook attachment system. While a longer, more traditional hook & loop attachment system will hold the pads in place, this mismatch will cause operating temperature on the disc to increase noticeably.




This variety of pad sizes makes the DA Microfiber Correction System compatible with a wide range of popular tools:
  • DMC3/DMF3 pads: Mini air tools, Metabo SXE400
  • DMC5/DMF5 pads: DA buffers such as Meguiar's G110v2, G110, G100, Porter Cable 7424, 7336, 7424XP, Griot's Garage 6"
  • DMC6/DMF6 pads: Pneumatic DA buffers, Flex 3401, Festool, etc
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OK, let's look at these pieces a little more in depth, and then actually put them to use.



Again, the system is comprised, essentially, of two pads (cutting and finishing) and two liquids (correction compound and finishing wax). The cutting pad utilizes a red foam backer (red being almost universally accepted as a warning color, hence its use for the cutting/compounding stage) and a very unique microfiber surface to provide the cut. Used in conjunction with our D300 Microfiber Correction Compound, a reddish pink in color (see the trend here?) it can speed through even the most severe swirls, water spots, etchings, etc almost as quickly as a rotary, without the inherent dangers of that tool in the hands of a novice.



The finishing pad with its black foam backer and softer microfiber surface, provides tremendous refinement of the surface following the compounding step, while the D301 Microfiber Finishing Wax furthers that enhancement and provides a blend of polymer/carnauba protection.



As previously mentioned, both types of pad are available in 6.25", 5.5" and 3.37" sizes to fit a variety of tools, as shown below.








And since this system is designed for D/A use only, you don’t need to worry about the typical holograms and swirls so often left behind following rotary use. It simply can’t happen with a D/A!

OK, so how different is this system to use than the traditional foam pads and various liquids? Well, not terribly different, but there are some very important things to keep in mind. You’ll want to start with the obvious – wash and dry the car, and clay if needed. Now attach the cutting pad to the D/A and set the tool to 4800 opm. On the Meguiar’s G110v2 that is speed setting 4 – refer to your owners manual for the equivalent setting on your tool – you’re looking for 4800opm. Apply DA Microfiber Correction Compound directly to the microfiber cutting disc, using just a few drops of product to start. This is the first major deviation from what you’re probably used to – you use a lot less product with this system than with typical liquids and foam pads.



Now, place the pad flat on the paint, turn the tool on and begin working a 2’ x 2’ area with uniform pressure. At this point you are just beginning to prime the pad so don’t worry about defect correction just yet. After just a couple of quick passes turn the tool off and lift the pad off the paint. It should look like this.



Add a few more drops of product to the “clean” areas of the pad and repeat the above process. You want the entire face of the pad to be lightly but uniformly covered with product. Alternatively you could apply some product to the pad and work it in with your fingers, just make sure to NOT overuse the product and to uniformly cover the pad. At this point the pad is fully primed and you can get to work correcting defects.






To do that you want to start with 2 – 3 passes of moderate pressure then follow with 2 – 3 passes of light pressure over the same area. Work in the same small, roughly 2’ x 2’ area that you should be used to doing with foam pads. Just as with traditional liquids you do not want to go to a dry buff with this system. But you should see the product stay wet for a very generous period of time, and there will be almost no dust to deal with at all. Remove remaining residue using a microfiber towel and continue this process on all areas of the vehicle as necessary.



For maximum cutting at all times, clean the microfiber disc frequently using compressed air, Meguiar's Professional Pad Conditioning Brush, or Meguiar's Pad Washer. This is a very critical step, to be honest, and something that many casual D/A users often don’t do with foam pads. With microfiber it is imperative that you clean the pads often and thoroughly. Compressed air works great but a good pad brush does wonders, too. It takes just a couple of seconds to do, and the rewards are huge. Remember, these pads are microfiber and microfiber is designed to hold on to stuff. If you pick up a bit of foreign matter, or you don’t clean the pads and product starts to clump or dry, you do run the risk of creating pigtails in the surface. But this is so easy to avoid – just clean the pad after every, or every other, section. We can not stress this enough! You’ll see the fibers of the pad matt down pretty quickly, but cleaning will fluff them back up and remove excess product.

In the images below you can clearly see the fibers matted down prior to cleaning, and fluffed back up after either brushing or using compressed air.












The pad will stay primed, however, so subsequent applications of fresh product requires no more than a few pea sized drops. That’s it. Do not overuse this product! If ever there was a “less is more” situation, this is it!



Here’s another little deviation from what is generally done with foam pads on a D/A: if you find you need more cut, do not increase the speed of the tool. That’s right – leave it at 4800 opm. To increase cut simply increase the amount of pressure applied, slow down your arm speed over the surface, or both. You can actually use very heavy pressure with this system and still have rotation of the pad. If you do need this extra pressure, however, be sure to finish off with a light pass or two before moving on to the next area.

Routinely, though, you should start by using moderate pressure and working your 2’ x 2’ section in overlapping up and down and then side to side strokes with moderate pressure, then follow by repeating that motion with just light pressure. Do a test spot like that first and then adjust arm speed and pressure as needed. But do that test spot first (that part hasn’t changed, and likely never will!).

This system loves hard paint. Increased pressure and very slow arm speed on hard paint should remove even very severe defects and leave a very nice finish. Softer paints are prone to hazing at this step, but that’s quite common with soft paint and D/A polishing anyway. If you find more hazing than you’re used to, don’t panic. The microfiber finishing disc and finishing wax will take care of it very easily.

Using the finishing disc and wax is very much like applying a wax with a foam pad via D/A. With this system you want to set the tool speed to 3800 opm – speed setting 3 on the G110v2 – and apply just a few drops of finishing wax to the finishing disc. Again, quickly priming the pad is called for as noted above.








Just as you would when applying wax with a foam pad, you want to apply the finishing wax with only light to moderate pressure and with increased arm speed. The microfiber pad and formulation of the liquid will remove any haze from the previous step, dramatically increase clarity, and provide excellent polymer/carnauba protection. You can cover all the painted surfaces of the vehicle with this step, adding product to the pad as needed. But again, and this is critical, do not overuse the product. A little goes a very long way here. We do suggest you clean the pad as mentioned above regularly, but it’s not as critical in this step as it is in the compounding phase. Still, it’s a good idea to stay in the habit of keeping these pads clean.



You’ll find this finishing wax dries very quickly and wipes off with almost no effort. By the time you’re done covering the whole vehicle with a thin coat it should be ready to start wiping off. It really is that fast and easy.

In a case of extremely delicate paint (and this is going to be fairly rare) you may find that even the finishing disc used on the D/A leaves a tiny bit of haze. In that case, apply the finishing wax using the microfiber finishing disc by hand, preferably utilizing a S6HP or S3HP for uniform application.

It’s also a good idea to use at least a bit of caution when removing the microfiber discs from the backing plate. Rather than pulling up just on the microfiber portion of the disc, grab the entire thickness so that you’re directly pulling on the foam to pull it off the hook and loop attachment system.

DON’T do this…


DO this.


There really are only three ways you can go wrong here, and they are very easy to avoid but also require some adjustment if you’re used to using foam pads and traditional liquids:
  • Using too much product is a definite no-no. If you’re finding the product difficult to remove, this is the number one culprit. Remember, just a few drops of product per section is all that’s needed.
  • Short cycling is the next most common reason for difficult wipe off and insufficient defect removal. The Microfiber Correction Compound should stay wet for a long time, giving you a long buffing cycle. Take advantage of it and let the product work down to a thin film. Wipe off will be incredibly easy and there will be almost no dust.
  • Keep the pads clean. This just can not be stressed enough. If you aren’t keeping your foam pads clean right now, and you should be, you want to break that bad habit NOW. Keep the pads clean.

Hints and tips:

  • It is fairly common for the compounding step to create some level of hazing when removing defects. This is normal, and you don't generally expect the heaving cutting step in any process to leave the finish LSP ready, so this one is really no different. So feel free to do an IPA wipedown or similar, just don't be surprised to find the finish is less than perfect. That's what the Finishing Wax and Finishing Disc are here for. Speaking of hazing, on very delicate paint systems you may find that some hazing still remains following the Finishing Wax step. If so, either try applying the wax by hand, or apply it with the 6.25" discs. Either process minimizes the action of the tool and can further refine very delicate paints.
  • Priming of the pads is essential with this system. While this was discussed previously here, it's worth a quick review.


  • The overall process can be broken down into two steps, or even just a single step for very light defect removal or when working on very delicate paint:


  • Keep your tool speed set at 4800 opms for defect correction with the Correction Compound/Cutting Disc. If you need to alter your cut do so by either increasing pressure on the disc or by reducing your arm speed over the paint. Do not increase the tool speed! You can apply very heavy pressure and still allow for pad spin, which is critical, and the pressure increase can dramatically increase the cutting ability of the combination.
  • Keep your tool speed set at 3800 opms for application of the Finishing Wax. You can move fairly quickly over the paint surface during this step, but make sure to cover uniformly and completely. Being able to move quickly is not an invitation to be sloppy! Only light to moderate pressure is needed for application of the finishing wax.
  • Clean your pads regularly and frequently during use. We simply can not stress this enough! Spend a few seconds after every pass to remove excess product (and that small amount of paint) from the pad with either compressed air or a pad brush. This not only prevents the build up or clumping of product but also keeps the microfiber material "fluffed" for optimum cutting ability. The pad will remain primed when doing this, and all that's needed for the next panel is 4 or 5 pea sized drops of product. A little goes a very long way! This frequent cleaning is much more critical in the compounding step, as you might imagine.

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Old 16-09-2011, 05:22 PM   #2
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Is there any cut in the finishing wax or is it just filling that will hide/remove light swirls and hazing?
Certainly looks like a good system - I'm not entirely sure whether I could part with my rotary and buy this and a DA yet though.
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Has this system been tried on a flex 3401 yet? And if so what were the results. I fear the forced rotation might ruin the pads quickly

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I've got a DAS 6 Pro.

For the speeds you mention for cutting and finishing, what would be my settings on the DA? 1 = slowest and 6 = fastest.

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EDIT got the answer here!

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru....php?p=2454533

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Ok a couple of questions here;

1. The finishing wax does have a very small amount of cut, however most of the cut will come from the DA Cutting Compound.

2. The system can be used with a flex 3401, it is one of the reasons why we created the 6" disc. It should be noted, however, that the forced rotation movement of the tool can result in some hazing, especially on safter paints. The DA microfibre system really has been designed to be used with a true DA tool like the G220v2 and similar.
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Thanks for the directions almost exactly how I used it today for the first time. Had to take some bird etching out on a customers BMW 3 series the cutting compound & cutting discs worked really well, very impressed & so was he as he'd tried numerous stuff via the da before calling me back in. I did notice a heat build up on the working area which I though was strange but you mentioned this above probably why all the meg's da backing plates are all sold out

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Hi Baz, Glad the products worked for you and that you had a satisfied customer. We are expecting more stock of the cutting pads in the next few weeks.

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Where can i get the brush to fluff up the pads again????
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You can use a Triple Duty detailing brush or similar stiff bristle brush. We are currently working on getting our pad conditioning brushes to the UK market. As soon as they become available we will let you know.
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Is there someone who stock 3" and 5" backing plates in UK?
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